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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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            &lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;Most veterinarians may suggest to lower protein at any sign of renal problems, but it has been discovered that this can do more harm than good:&lt;br&gt;
                       ~ Lew Olson&lt;br&gt;
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This is the article written by Lew Olson&lt;br&gt;
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She is very knowledgeable&lt;br&gt;
I know she would answer any questions you might have&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/kidney-diet/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/kid...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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You can get eggshell calcium from this site&lt;br&gt;
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pet-grub.com/pet-supplements/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pet-grub.com/pet-supplements/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Lew sells fish oil capsules &lt;br&gt;
this site sells fish oil in a pump bottle&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.healthhutt.com/product_info.php?products_id=20647925&amp;s=c311ba0ae7a9487738ed8b0b3a6c0187&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.healthhutt.com/product_info.p...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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 the oil comes in an aluminum can  ... most oil is packaged in plastic bottles&lt;br&gt;
salmon oil can break down plastic&lt;br&gt;
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you can decide which one you would prefer&lt;br&gt;
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sending you and your little guy the very best in the world&lt;br&gt;
I know how much you love him&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<div class="content">Most veterinarians may suggest to lower protein at any sign of renal problems, but it has been discovered that this can do more harm than good:<br />
                       ~ Lew Olson</p>
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This is the article written by Lew Olson</p>
<p>She is very knowledgeable<br />
I know she would answer any questions you might have</p>
<p><a href="http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/kidney-diet/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/kid.." rel="nofollow">http://www.b-naturals.com/newsletter/kid..</a>.</p>
<p>You can get eggshell calcium from this site<br />
 <a href="http://www.pet-grub.com/pet-supplements/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pet-grub.com/pet-supplements/</a></p>
<p>Lew sells fish oil capsules <br />
this site sells fish oil in a pump bottle<br />
<a href="http://www.healthhutt.com/product_info.php?products_id=20647925&amp;s=c311ba0ae7a9487738ed8b0b3a6c0187" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.healthhutt.com/product_info.p.." rel="nofollow">http://www.healthhutt.com/product_info.p..</a>.</p>
<p> the oil comes in an aluminum can  &#8230; most oil is packaged in plastic bottles<br />
salmon oil can break down plastic</p>
<p>you can decide which one you would prefer</p>
<p>sending you and your little guy the very best in the world<br />
I know how much you love him</div>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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            &lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;Dogs with a kidney problem, need a very low protein diet. I have been investigating this on behalf of a friend. Apparently the Hills food for kidney problems must only be given for six months. Denes, who are in the UK also offer a food which is  suitable for dogs with kidney problems and they can be on this permanently. They also sell herbal remedies for kidney problems. Look at www.denes.co.uk.&lt;br&gt;
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My friends dog eats a huge amount and is loosing weight.  From my researches, I discovered dogs with  a kidney problem are reluctant to eat. Because of this it would appear that my friends  dog is diabetic and this has played havoc with his kidneys. Dogs with either kidney problems or  diabetes can live a long life, IF IF  they are fed the correct diet. If you want to investigate your dogs problems on the Internet, precede your enquiry with dog. I typed in &quot;Dog kidney problems&quot; and there was lots of info. I then typed in &quot;dogs diabetes&quot; and got more.&lt;br&gt;
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Dogs are precious, why do we care so much??&lt;br&gt;
That&#039;s what loving is all about.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<div class="content"><a href="http://www.thatdogguy.com/recommends/secrets" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Dogtrainingsecrets';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">Dogs</a> with a kidney problem, need a very low protein diet. I have been investigating this on behalf of a friend. Apparently the Hills food for kidney problems must only be given for six months. Denes, who are in the UK also offer a food which is  suitable for <a href="http://www.thatdogguy.com/recommends/secrets" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Dogtrainingsecrets';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">dogs</a> with kidney problems and they can be on this permanently. They also sell herbal remedies for kidney problems. Look at <a href="http://www.denes.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.denes.co.uk</a>.</p>
<p>My friends <a href="http://www.thatdogguy.com/recommends/secrets" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Dogtrainingsecrets';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">dog</a> eats a huge amount and is loosing weight.  From my researches, I discovered <a href="http://www.thatdogguy.com/recommends/secrets" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Dogtrainingsecrets';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">dogs</a> with  a kidney problem are reluctant to eat. Because of this it would appear that my friends  <a href="http://www.thatdogguy.com/recommends/secrets" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Dogtrainingsecrets';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">dog</a> is diabetic and this has played havoc with his kidneys. Dogs with either kidney problems or  diabetes can live a long life, IF IF  they are fed the correct diet. If you want to investigate your dogs problems on the Internet, precede your enquiry with <a href="http://www.thatdogguy.com/recommends/secrets" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Dogtrainingsecrets';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">dog</a>. I typed in &quot;Dog kidney problems&quot; and there was lots of info. I then typed in &quot;dogs diabetes&quot; and got more.</p>
<p>Dogs are precious, why do we care so much??<br />
That&#039;s what loving is all about.</div>
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            &lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;I would try a raw diet. It has shown so much improvement in my three dogs that I can not recommend anything else. Heres is a good forum for dogs www.bigdogsporch.com, and a few other sites for feeding raw, www.rawfed.com/myths, www.rawmeatybones.com, and www.rawlearning.com&lt;br&gt;
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Dont listen to vets nutrtional advice. Purina, Science diet, Iams and a few other big names teach vet students in school plus nutrition classes are not required to graduate and get a license. &lt;br&gt;
If you read on purinas site... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.purina.com/science/partnerships/OtherAlliances.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.purina.com/science/partnershi...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
the site states purina combined with the american college of veterinary nutrition and formed the curriculum. Not something to be proud of.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<div class="content">I would try a raw diet. It has shown so much improvement in my three <a href="http://www.thatdogguy.com/recommends/secrets" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Dogtrainingsecrets';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">dogs</a> that I can not recommend anything else. Heres is a good forum for <a href="http://www.thatdogguy.com/recommends/secrets" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='Dogtrainingsecrets';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">dogs</a> <a href="http://www.bigdogsporch.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bigdogsporch.com</a>, and a few other sites for feeding raw, <a href="http://www.rawfed.com/myths" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawfed.com/myths</a>, <a href="http://www.rawmeatybones.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawmeatybones.com</a>, and <a href="http://www.rawlearning.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawlearning.com</a></p>
<p>Dont listen to vets nutrtional advice. Purina, Science diet, Iams and a few other big names teach vet students in school plus nutrition classes are not required to graduate and get a license. <br />
If you read on purinas site&#8230; <a href="http://www.purina.com/science/partnerships/OtherAlliances.aspx" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.purina.com/science/partnershi.." rel="nofollow">http://www.purina.com/science/partnershi..</a>.<br />
the site states purina combined with the american college of veterinary nutrition and formed the curriculum. Not something to be proud of.</div>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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            &lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;I dealt with extensive kidney disease with my 5 year old cat for a VERY long time.. Sad part is that he exhibited NO signs until he only had 18% of his kidneys left. Fortunately, I was able to keep him happy and healthy for many years. &lt;br&gt;
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It depends on what the root cause of his kidney disease is. Is it that he is a stone producer, and that has destroyed his kidneys? Or, is it something else? Depending on the reason, there are not only good medications that help stabilize them, but there are good and different kinds of diets they can be put on.&lt;br&gt;
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Email me at: smb4469@yahoo.com if you want to chat more. Also, join the CANINE CRF GROUP. I learned alot from Feline CRF, and from the kindness of strangers... &lt;br&gt;
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<div class="content">I dealt with extensive kidney disease with my 5 year old cat for a VERY long time.. Sad part is that he exhibited NO signs until he only had 18% of his kidneys left. Fortunately, I was able to keep him happy and healthy for many years. </p>
<p>It depends on what the root cause of his kidney disease is. Is it that he is a stone producer, and that has destroyed his kidneys? Or, is it something else? Depending on the reason, there are not only good medications that help stabilize them, but there are good and different kinds of diets they can be put on.</p>
<p>Email me at: <a href="mailto:smb4469@yahoo.com">smb4469@yahoo.com</a> if you want to chat more. Also, join the CANINE CRF GROUP. I learned alot from Feline CRF, and from the kindness of strangers&#8230; </p>
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            &lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;What you are feeding him now will make his condition WORSE.  Recent research shows that dogs fed raw or high-protein diets will have elevated kidney and liver values on bloodwork compared to traditionally-fed dogs.  Whether or not these elevated values lead to organ dysfunction in later life is not yet known.  If you are feeding a canned formula, the percentages are misleading because of the high moisture content of canned foods.  You have to factor out the water and compare diets on a dry matter basis, which is a big long equation I don&#039;t have in front of me at the moment.  Byproducts of protein digestion are difficult for the body to get rid of, and put a lot of stress on both the kidneys and the liver.  This is why kidney and liver diets are formulated to be low in protein-easily digestible, high quality protein.  Hill&#039;s K/d and Purina NF are the prescription options.  Canned is better because of the high moisture content.  Kidneys lose the ability to concentrate urine early on and that leaves animals prone to dehydration.  If you would like to continue cooking for your dog, you can have a veterinary nutritionist design a diet specifically for him, I believe the website is www.veterinarydiets.com.  There is a fee for the service.&lt;br&gt;
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Additionally, you want to pay particularly close attention to his dental health.  Canned food does lead to increased tartar and gingivitis, so you&#039;ll want to brush his teeth and keep up on dental cleanings.  When there&#039;s dental disease in the mouth, the gums get raw and inflamed.  Then bacteria in the mouth have easy access to the bloodstream through the gums.   These bacteria tend to collect in the kidneys, which filter the blood, and often also cause damage to the liver and heart.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<div class="content">What you are feeding him now will make his condition WORSE.  Recent research shows that dogs fed raw or high-protein diets will have elevated kidney and liver values on bloodwork compared to traditionally-fed dogs.  Whether or not these elevated values lead to organ dysfunction in later life is not yet known.  If you are feeding a canned formula, the percentages are misleading because of the high moisture content of canned foods.  You have to factor out the water and compare diets on a dry matter basis, which is a big long equation I don&#039;t have in front of me at the moment.  Byproducts of protein digestion are difficult for the body to get rid of, and put a lot of stress on both the kidneys and the liver.  This is why kidney and liver diets are formulated to be low in protein-easily digestible, high quality protein.  Hill&#039;s K/d and Purina NF are the prescription options.  Canned is better because of the high moisture content.  Kidneys lose the ability to concentrate urine early on and that leaves animals prone to dehydration.  If you would like to continue cooking for your dog, you can have a veterinary nutritionist design a diet specifically for him, I believe the website is <a href="http://www.veterinarydiets.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.veterinarydiets.com</a>.  There is a fee for the service.</p>
<p>Additionally, you want to pay particularly close attention to his dental health.  Canned food does lead to increased tartar and gingivitis, so you&#039;ll want to brush his teeth and keep up on dental cleanings.  When there&#039;s dental disease in the mouth, the gums get raw and inflamed.  Then bacteria in the mouth have easy access to the bloodstream through the gums.   These bacteria tend to collect in the kidneys, which filter the blood, and often also cause damage to the liver and heart.</p></div>
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            &lt;div class=&quot;content&quot;&gt;Your vet can prescribe Science Diet K/D (kidney diet) for your dog.  You can pick it up at the vet clinic or at a local feed store.  It&#039;s good stuff.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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<div class="content">Your vet can prescribe Science Diet K/D (kidney diet) for your dog.  You can pick it up at the vet clinic or at a local feed store.  It&#039;s good stuff.</div>
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